Saturday, May 22, 2010

Any college grads having a hard time...?

finding employment or finding a good paying job (esp. in your field of study)?


And why does one need 2+ years experience just to do office work or call someone up on the phone?


Do you think race plays a part in not getting hired? I'm a black, educated female. At my university, I worked at the library and tutored kids. I also did a three month unpaid internship at a nonprofit organization. I did a lot of volunteering at a very well known organization. I've been to about 10 interviews. All but two of the people who interviewed me were white. The only person who gave me a chance was black. But it's a temp job that doesn't pay much.


What's the point of going to college when nobody is going to hire you b/c you're not the right color or have like 50 million years of experience.


I know I sound bitter but how would you feel if you spent so much money and time for nothing. There are people out there who are only highschool grads but are making twice as much as me. Agree or disagree?

Any college grads having a hard time...?
Why didn't you get a job at the place you interned, or the place you volunteered at? Those are the best places to start. If you don't want to work there, at least ask the people there to hook you up with someone that can get you a good job. It's important to keep up personal relationships with business associates. This has nothing to do with color or race. This has to do more with the fact that you do not have too many industry connections because you are fresh out of college. It's true what they say; it's who you know, and not what you know.





Take a good look at yourself as well. Going to a job interview is very different from going to a class at college. Dress up in a nice suit, and make sure you look presentable and professional. Cover up any tattoos that you may have. Brush your teeth and make sure you have fresh breathe. Trim your nails and hair. Take a shower and wash up. Go easy on the perfume. Sit up straight and stand tall. Carry a pen with you. All of these things seem trivial, but in my experience, these things are minimum requirements before you even have a shot at getting a good job.
Reply:The first job out of college is tough to get for just about everyone. You fgured there where a couple hundred people that graduate from your school with the same degree, are going to be fighting for the same job as you. Then you factor in all the other college grads in the area, you have a lot of competition. Typically every enter-level (college grad) position has about 100 people apply for it, maybe have of that get a phone interview, 10 of that come in for an interview and 1 gets hired. I went and interviewed with 15 different companies before I was given an offer and it wasn't a great job. But you end up taking the job, put in your 2 years and move into a job you truely want.





There will always be high school students that make more then college grads, but on average, most college grads will make more.
Reply:Yes, the needing experience part is very frustrating for many entry-level candidates. To get the leg up, make sure you try to think like the employer. This means, look at everything on your resume, everything you'd say in an interview, and ask yourself: "How can I rephrase this so it focuses on what this will DO FOR THEM, how THEY WILL BENEFIT from my education, experience, hobbies, etc.





Let me give you an example:


Suppose your hobby is exercise. Show them that your committment to exercise means that, as an employee, you do what you know you should, even when its uncomfortable to do it (after all, who likes the pain of exercising).





About race, I'm sorry you experienced that. I'm afraid I don't have any concrete advice there. Hopefully someone will come along with something about that for you.
Reply:Carefull now. The days of walking out of college and into your career are over. Unless you are at the top of your class, it's not going to happen. I don't know how these salary figures for new grads are made, but I say bull. I haven't met a single person that didn't step out of college and into more than a 12 dollar an hour job.





I had a mentor even tell me before I started the university, that I might have to offer a lot of free volunteer time. What is employment like in your area? Competition might be tight.
Reply:Experience is big. I'm actually pursuing my higher education now. With that said, when I got out of the military I interviewed with 5 companies and they all pursued me. The fact that I had 6 years experience put me over the college grads. One of my friends was in the military with me and she got a job without a degree also and got paid 20grand a year more than those with only a college education. Its always harder to fire someone than hire them so companies want to make sure they have someone that is tried and true.





Next thing that is big is your interviewing skill. You have to show excitement and interest in their job. You don't go in their trying to show your can do the job, the fact that you got that far means they already know you can do the job from your resume. They need to see if you're a fit for the company. I researched each company I interviewed for and asked them questions about their company, not just my job, but what the company does overall. This shows you're actually interested in the company and not just trying to get a job. I showed excitement about what the company did and interest. During an interview you should take control of the interview. In your answers you make it about what you can do for the company. When they ask if you have any questions, have them. Ask about the different things the company does. Who is the customer for the company? What is their end goal, etc... And when you leave show excitement and tell them that you really hope to hear from them and ask them for a business card in case you have any questions. This should really help you out even if you lack experience.





About the race thing, the only thing I can say is that I'm latino and all my interviewers pursued me. But its a case by case thing.





Good luck and I hope all goes well for you.

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